| 14:50:37 | maxi: | Hi there, is the board meeting here? ;-) |
| 14:51:46 | aghisla: | hi maxi! |
| 14:52:38 | aghisla: | it is planned to be a face to face for who is in Portland, but with IRC connection for other board members too |
| 14:54:05 | maxi: | perfect, I guess there is early morning... |
| 14:54:52 | maxi: | in case someone have a laptop with hangouts, it could be nice eventually... |
| 14:55:07 | aghisla: | yup let's see |
| 15:04:43 | djay: | hello |
| 15:04:55 | djay: | we just arrive in the location |
| 15:05:17 | djay: | Jachym is discussing outside and we are still waiting for Mike |
| 15:05:26 | DirkF: | ok |
| 15:05:31 | djay: | Hi Dirk |
| 15:05:34 | DirkF: | hi |
| 15:05:39 | maxi: | hi, no problem, ping when u are ready |
| 15:05:47 | djay: | sorry for the message the other night I didn't realize what time it was |
| 15:06:02 | DirkF: | phone was not in my room :-) |
| 15:06:32 | aghisla: | hi djay! |
| 15:06:33 | djay: | are we going through IRC this time also ? |
| 15:06:57 | djay: | Hi aghisla nice to hear you and happy to have you aboard for 2 more years |
| 15:07:21 | aghisla: | thanks djay! :) |
| 15:07:28 | aghisla: | how is the conference going? |
| 15:07:36 | aghisla: | hi jmckenna! |
| 15:07:55 | djay: | aghisla: the conference was pretty well organized |
| 15:08:14 | djay: | it make me remember old time, like in swiss |
| 15:08:23 | aghisla: | wow! |
| 15:08:26 | djay: | we had a place to meet everybody every evening |
| 15:08:53 | maxi: | I follow a lot of talks live steaming.... great job and great talks... |
| 15:08:55 | djay: | so as before, if you are a new commer, you do'nt have to think where I can meet this people during the evening, you can just have lunch with everyone |
| 15:09:03 | djay: | thanks a lot maci |
| 15:09:08 | djay: | but I have to mention one thing |
| 15:09:36 | djay: | this conference made me also realized that OSGeo was notmentionned in many places |
| 15:09:57 | djay: | to see the OSGeo logo, you have to go to the booths room then go to the back wall |
| 15:10:01 | djay: | here there were the booth |
| 15:10:08 | djay: | fine, but nowhere else |
| 15:10:43 | djay: | finally after discussing with the local commitee, they fixed the issue by adding the OSGeo banner in the keynote speaker room |
| 15:10:55 | maxi: | :-( |
| 15:11:06 | djay: | so I think it push us to take decision in the way OSGeo is taking care of the FOSS4G *if any* |
| 15:11:19 | aghisla: | hm I see |
| 15:11:22 | DirkF: | I think this remark is on the agenda in topic 6 (brand) and 10 (mission) |
| 15:11:56 | djay: | yes sorry I just reported back about the foss4g and the feelings I had |
| 15:12:07 | djay: | we didn't start the meeting yet I guess |
| 15:12:09 | DirkF: | noprob - great! |
| 15:12:11 | djay: | it is just free talk |
| 15:12:16 | maxi: | thanks gerard it is important |
| 15:12:55 | | * aross42 waves to everyone. Sorry I'm a little late. |
| 15:13:14 | | * djay waves aross42 |
| 15:13:17 | aghisla: | hi aross42! |
| 15:13:27 | aross42: | hey aghisla djay! :-) |
| 15:14:29 | djay: | we can start at 8:30 |
| 15:14:45 | aghisla: | djay: ok |
| 15:15:35 | DirkF: | I have to leave at 9:00 - need to visit my father in hospital. |
| 15:15:41 | jmckenna: | hi all, sorry for delay, my roommate left 40mins before me yet i am here first! (we await Mike Smith in person here) |
| 15:16:16 | DirkF: | Hi jmckenna! |
| 15:16:19 | | * aross42 is going to step away for a few moments to grab some food. Back very shortly. |
| 15:16:35 | djay: | aross42: same issue here, no breakfast yet :/ |
| 15:17:00 | DirkF: | Hi Jachym! |
| 15:18:08 | aghisla: | hi jachym, DirkF! |
| 15:18:43 | DirkF: | Hi aghisla! also from Europe? |
| 15:18:51 | jachym: | ah |
| 15:18:53 | jachym: | here we go |
| 15:19:02 | aghisla: | DirkF: yes |
| 15:24:49 | aghisla: | djay, jmckenna, jachym, any of you can start a hangout? |
| 15:25:16 | aghisla: | (or anyone else with a laptop in your room, in fact) |
| 15:25:25 | djay: | jachym will do |
| 15:25:29 | aghisla: | great! |
| 15:25:33 | djay: | but he still have to add items to agenda ... |
| 15:25:41 | | * aghisla hides before someone asks who will scribe |
| 15:28:35 | aross42: | could I please get the hangout URL when available? |
| 15:29:08 | djay: | sure, not yet started I think |
| 15:29:18 | | * mdsmith apologizes for holding things up |
| 15:30:26 | jmckenna: | hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gtjct55ucodw7if67h2ukv6r6ia |
| 15:30:27 | sigq: | Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com) |
| 15:34:39 | djay: | dmorissette: 17:30 < jmckenna> hangout link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gtjct55ucodw7if67h2ukv6r6ia |
| 15:34:40 | sigq: | Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com) |
| 15:35:06 | dmorissette: | djay: cannot join hangout link now unfortunately |
| 15:35:40 | djay: | dmorissette: fine, just to let you know |
| 15:35:52 | dmorissette: | yup. thanks |
| 15:37:24 | djay: | Board meeting is starting right now |
| 15:37:28 | djay: | through hangout |
| 15:37:37 | djay: | Jeff is annoucing the agenda currently |
| 15:37:53 | djay: | (everybody can join the meeting using hangout) |
| 15:40:24 | jachym: | hi all also to IRC |
| 15:40:28 | jachym: | just started |
| 15:40:46 | djay: | jachym: will scribe |
| 15:41:17 | jachym: | I scribe, |
| 15:41:23 | djay: | http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-08-14 |
| 15:41:24 | sigq: | Title: Board Meeting 2014-08-14 - OSGeo Wiki (at wiki.osgeo.org) |
| 15:46:37 | DirkF: | * discussion about storing private documents for OSGeo |
| 15:48:13 | maxi: | motion to approve previous minutes |
| 15:48:24 | jachym: | msmith motions for aproving previous minutes |
| 15:48:26 | jachym: | jeff seconds |
| 15:48:28 | aghisla: | I write here |
| 15:48:36 | jachym: | +1 |
| 15:48:40 | vcraciunescu: | +1 |
| 15:48:43 | djay: | +0 |
| 15:48:43 | maxi: | +1 |
| 15:48:46 | aghisla: | I abstain, I was not there |
| 15:48:52 | jmckenna: | +1 |
| 15:49:08 | mdsmith: | +0 to accept |
| 15:49:13 | jachym: | motion passed |
| 15:49:28 | jachym: | next item |
| 15:49:32 | jachym: | new board memebers |
| 15:50:39 | jachym: | maxi, msmith, vasile |
| 15:51:07 | jachym: | mdsmith: are we elected for boar in general or for certain position |
| 15:51:33 | jachym: | answer: generic board position |
| 15:52:55 | jachym: | next item: board rules |
| 15:53:09 | jachym: | president, treasurer, secretary |
| 15:53:37 | jachym: | director emeritus 7: late to talk about vice president |
| 15:53:42 | jachym: | but we need to talk about it |
| 15:54:27 | | * dmorissette goes offline… should be onsite in ~30-40 minutes |
| 15:56:58 | jachym: | jeff: at least 3 years president, proposing another 2 years from now |
| 15:57:12 | jachym: | need for vp during this period |
| 15:57:34 | jachym: | still there is president emeritus around |
| 15:58:31 | jachym: | 2 executives and 1 advisory |
| 15:59:17 | jachym: | heavy discussion about role of VP |
| 16:04:14 | aghisla: | bartvde: hangout link is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gtjct55ucodw7if67h2ukv6r6ia |
| 16:04:15 | sigq: | Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com) |
| 16:04:19 | maxi: | can jeff switch on video? not always easy to get who's talking ;-) |
| 16:06:48 | djay: | maxi: no way, not enough bandwidth |
| 16:08:14 | aross42: | jachym: do you really mean oldest person in the room, or longest serving? I think you likely mean the latter. |
| 16:08:34 | jachym: | jeff is voluteering for president |
| 16:08:47 | | * mdsmith motions that jeff be president |
| 16:08:59 | aghisla: | +1 |
| 16:09:06 | jachym: | vasile sendoing, geraldn |
| 16:09:09 | jachym: | (sorry for the mess) |
| 16:09:10 | jachym: | +1 |
| 16:09:11 | djay: | +1 |
| 16:09:14 | vcraciunescu: | +1 |
| 16:09:16 | aghisla: | for one year as we said? |
| 16:09:21 | mdsmith: | for one year |
| 16:09:23 | bartvde: | +1 |
| 16:09:44 | maxi: | +1 |
| 16:09:54 | djay: | mdsmith: is voloteering for being the tresurer |
| 16:10:35 | jachym: | jeff +1 |
| 16:10:43 | jmckenna: | +1 |
| 16:10:46 | maxi: | +1 |
| 16:10:48 | jmckenna: | bartvde: ? |
| 16:10:55 | jachym: | motion passed |
| 16:10:56 | jmckenna: | bart we have a hangout too |
| 16:10:57 | djay: | welcome bartvde |
| 16:11:03 | jachym: | next item: treasurer |
| 16:11:13 | aghisla: | +1 for mdsmith as treasurer |
| 16:11:20 | | * mdsmith plans to work with dmorissette |
| 16:11:47 | jmckenna: | +1 for mdsmith as treasurer (nice to have US-based person bc we are registered in US) |
| 16:11:54 | mdsmith: | if there is another that wants to be treasurer, i'm happy to have that person be treasurer |
| 16:11:56 | djay: | +1 to have mdsmith as treasurer |
| 16:12:57 | DirkF: | (I need to leave - will read the minutes ...) |
| 16:13:13 | jachym: | no other person |
| 16:15:04 | jachym: | I move: mdsmith as treasurer for OSGeo, for the next year |
| 16:15:11 | jachym: | +1 |
| 16:15:14 | jmckenna: | +1 seconded |
| 16:15:16 | aghisla: | +1 |
| 16:15:18 | vcraciunescu: | +1 |
| 16:15:35 | maxi: | +1 |
| 16:15:45 | jachym: | bank account in canada, please move to usa |
| 16:16:23 | jachym: | sign authority to the old bank account |
| 16:19:29 | | * mdsmith will check into bank, moving the account and changing signing authority and if we can do anything for signing at the foundation level |
| 16:20:20 | djay: | aross42: ping ? |
| 16:20:44 | djay: | +1 |
| 16:21:00 | | * mdsmith +1 |
| 16:21:03 | aross42: | brb, I'm here. I could hear, but you couldn't hear me |
| 16:21:10 | aross42: | Just restarting my browser |
| 16:21:21 | mdsmith: | aross42: we can also discuss via email |
| 16:21:25 | jachym: | bartvde: could you move to the motion ^^ |
| 16:21:47 | jachym: | motion passed |
| 16:24:05 | djay: | hey darkblue_b ! |
| 16:24:07 | aghisla: | speaking with andrew, who describes Eclipse financial setup/staff |
| 16:24:53 | | * mdsmith is appreciat for aross42 expertise |
| 16:25:05 | jachym: | next item: secretary |
| 16:25:07 | aross42: | aghisla: I'm happy to describe. Could you try different words because I don't understand the question? Are you asking who designed how the Eclipse Foundation's accounting practices work? |
| 16:25:10 | mdsmith: | jachym volenteers for secretary |
| 16:26:27 | aghisla: | aross42: i was only logging for IRC participants, we will document the discussion on Hangout more properly :) |
| 16:26:37 | aross42: | Ah, OK. let me repeat here. |
| 16:27:10 | aross42: | At the Eclipse Foundation, there are 3 signatories. All are staff. They happen to be our Executive Director, CFO, and Legal Counsel. |
| 16:27:50 | bartvde: | sorry jachym I am not attending all the time, dinner break here sorry |
| 16:28:01 | jachym: | bartvde: it's ok |
| 16:28:17 | jachym: | need for wiki for particular roles |
| 16:28:31 | jachym: | It's a task |
| 16:29:13 | aross42: | For completeness, EF does not assign signing authority to any of the elected or appointed roles. In practice it isn't needed since staff take care of financial tasks. |
| 16:29:14 | mdsmith: | jmckenna: motions jachym as secratarty |
| 16:29:23 | jmckenna: | yes :) |
| 16:29:24 | jachym: | +1 |
| 16:29:27 | djay: | +1 |
| 16:29:28 | maxi: | +1 |
| 16:29:30 | mdsmith: | +1 |
| 16:29:32 | vcraciunescu: | +1 |
| 16:29:34 | aghisla: | +1 |
| 16:30:05 | jachym: | thank you for picking me, I do really looking forward to make cofee for mr. president next year |
| 16:30:37 | mdsmith: | any topics that need to be moved up because people are leaving? |
| 16:31:56 | jachym: | task item: acces to accounts, passwords |
| 16:32:16 | jachym: | more open within the board |
| 16:34:02 | jachym: | topic: board-priv mailing list |
| 16:36:13 | jachym: | and now foss4g accountings and foss4g advisory |
| 16:37:02 | jachym: | back to agenda |
| 16:37:16 | jachym: | review: osgeo brand |
| 16:38:32 | maxi: | i think 'Your Open Source Community' is not mentioning anything spatial |
| 16:39:07 | mdsmith: | jachym is speaking , i will record here |
| 16:39:36 | mdsmith: | essential question is why is osgeo here? |
| 16:39:54 | aghisla: | no audio anymore! |
| 16:39:55 | mdsmith: | what should osgeo should do? |
| 16:39:57 | aghisla: | in this crucial moment |
| 16:40:12 | mdsmith: | jeffs laptop is rebooting |
| 16:40:36 | mdsmith: | we will pause for a moment |
| 16:40:55 | aross42: | Thanks |
| 16:42:09 | mdsmith: | previous role of osgeo was primarily infrastructure |
| 16:42:13 | mdsmith: | for projects |
| 16:43:01 | maxi: | @mdsmith I agrre, why osgeo is here? |
| 16:43:41 | mdsmith: | copyright law, finiancial support to projects |
| 16:44:04 | | * mdsmith is repeating jachym's words |
| 16:44:20 | aghisla: | audio is a bit low |
| 16:44:26 | maxi: | what the community expects from osgeo in the next 5 years? and in the next 10? |
| 16:44:30 | mdsmith: | jachym says this is what we need to decide |
| 16:48:28 | aghisla: | jeff mentions that there has not been yet enough time for directors/interested people to discuss what are the goals of OSGeo now, in same place, or in a ordered manner |
| 16:49:24 | djay: | aghisla: I agree with that 100% |
| 16:49:44 | aghisla: | jachym says the original goals of OSGeo, set 10 years ago, need update |
| 16:50:41 | aghisla: | many things are not like they were 10 years ago (e.g. hosting for projects) |
| 16:52:07 | aghisla: | why should new projects join OSGeo, what is value added now |
| 16:53:50 | aghisla: | jody described status of incubation, and how it can proceed, with current criteria |
| 16:54:10 | jgarnett: | hello? |
| 16:54:33 | aghisla: | hi jody, we were citing your talk about incubation and discussing the topic |
| 16:54:50 | jgarnett: | nifty! thank you ... |
| 16:55:22 | aghisla: | do you wish to join the hangout? https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gtjct55ucodw7if67h2ukv6r6ia |
| 16:55:22 | jgarnett: | yeah I have not done the best job explaining to current projects that incubation is a learning experience for both parties |
| 16:55:22 | sigq: | Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com) |
| 16:56:21 | jgarnett: | What was cool 6 years ago, IRC meetings, may not be the same now etc ... |
| 16:56:39 | jgarnett: | and our super power at OSGeo is the flexibiity to work with the projects where they are |
| 16:56:50 | jgarnett: | (rather than forcing them to fit into an artifical box) |
| 16:56:53 | jgarnett: | -- rant off - |
| 16:56:55 | jgarnett: | :) |
| 16:57:12 | aghisla: | Darrell chimes in |
| 17:00:15 | aghisla: | jachym sees potential in collaborating with LocationTech for incubation process, for this OSGeo needs to clarify what are goals and strengths (Jeff underlines that community is OSGeo value) |
| 17:01:05 | aghisla: | .. and what is weakness |
| 17:02:28 | aghisla: | maxi mentions that OSGeo does amazing things but the website/publicity is not supporting this |
| 17:05:17 | aghisla: | discussion about the logo, and what the logo and tagline mean |
| 17:06:28 | aghisla: | jeff defines community as a very general concept, more as network, ecosystem |
| 17:14:16 | jachym: | we are going through http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/about.html |
| 17:14:17 | sigq: | Title: About the Open Source Geospatial Foundation | OSGeo.org (at www.osgeo.org) |
| 17:23:35 | mdsmith: | jeff proposes mission statement to remain as is |
| 17:23:37 | jachym: | "To support the collaborative development of open source geospatial software, and promote its widespread use." |
| 17:23:43 | mdsmith: | but update the goals |
| 17:23:46 | jmckenna: | +1 |
| 17:24:04 | mdsmith: | proposes -> motions that |
| 17:24:09 | jachym: | +1 |
| 17:24:15 | mdsmith: | +1 |
| 17:24:17 | vcraciunescu: | +1 |
| 17:24:33 | maxi: | +1 |
| 17:24:34 | aghisla: | +1 |
| 17:24:44 | djay: | +1 |
| 17:26:51 | jachym: | passed |
| 17:42:26 | seven: | Ping |
| 17:42:33 | djay: | hack |
| 17:42:39 | seven: | thanks. |
| 17:42:55 | djay: | :) |
| 17:43:18 | seven: | Question (just an excercise): Why not shut down OSGeo? |
| 17:43:24 | seven: | Opinions? |
| 17:43:42 | mdsmith: | answer: approve osgeo chapters |
| 17:43:53 | seven: | mdsmith: +1 |
| 17:43:55 | mdsmith: | answer: award the foss4g conference |
| 17:44:09 | | * seven takes note of the opinions, this shoudl result in a pragmatic mission, right? |
| 17:44:27 | mdsmith: | answer: network for the osgeo-labs education |
| 17:44:48 | djay: | answer (strangely coming as questions): how people can find the best software without their compass ? Ho project can get any community without the support from osgeo ? |
| 17:45:05 | seven: | djay: +1 |
| 17:45:19 | djay: | it provide recognition for the work you are doing |
| 17:56:58 | djay: | answer: bring/share the knowledge on GIS software to community |
| 18:01:30 | aghisla: | I have to leave now, I'll follow on mail/irc |
| 18:27:27 | aross42: | The audio doesn't seem to be working from the room. |
| 18:27:41 | aross42: | I don't think the issue is on my end. |
| 18:30:51 | jachym: | meeting continues |
| 18:31:02 | jachym: | aross42: I hope, you can listen now? |
| 18:31:11 | aross42: | Yes, thank you |
| 18:31:43 | jachym: | ok |
| 18:45:07 | jachym: | move from goals (no chance to talk) |
| 18:45:16 | jachym: | next item: oin |
| 18:45:31 | jachym: | jeff: pass the faq to board |
| 18:45:36 | jachym: | does it help to your projects? |
| 18:45:46 | jachym: | if so, and there seems to be the big guys on board |
| 18:45:58 | jachym: | we shall probably join in as well |
| 18:46:02 | jmckenna: | (http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/) |
| 18:46:03 | sigq: | Title: Home | Open Invention NetworkOpen Invention Network (at www.openinventionnetwork.com) |
| 18:46:15 | jachym: | so it helps to osgeo projects |
| 18:46:26 | jmckenna: | i will bring this to the Board mailing list, this topic (OIN) |
| 18:46:37 | jachym: | next item: election process |
| 19:01:23 | jachym: | I move: to publish last board and charter member elections on the internet withe detail numbers of +1's and -1's for each nominee |
| 19:01:29 | jachym: | +1 |
| 19:01:43 | djay: | +1 |
| 19:02:01 | djay: | (I second the motion, a bit late) |
| 19:03:13 | mdsmith: | +1 |
| 19:03:27 | vcraciunescu: | +1 |
| 19:03:48 | jmckenna: | +1 |
| 19:04:06 | jachym: | motion passed, |
| 19:04:12 | djay: | nice |
| 19:04:25 | jachym: | action item: ask jorge to put them online |
| 19:06:30 | jmckenna: | darkblue_b: ping |
| 19:06:47 | jachym: | next item: scope and mission of OSGeo are not well known among technical professionals |
| 19:06:50 | jachym: | .. |
| 19:07:05 | jmckenna: | darkblue_b: is this your topic? |
| 19:22:09 | jachym: | next item: sac |
| 19:23:06 | jachym: | action item: jachym to contact projects, local chapters, incbuation process, in terms of their needs |
| 19:23:31 | jmckenna: | (re: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Transition_Plan_2014) |
| 19:23:32 | sigq: | Title: Infrastructure Transition Plan 2014 - OSGeo Wiki (at wiki.osgeo.org) |
| 19:26:50 | jachym: | maybve survey |
| 19:26:55 | jachym: | put it into wiki |
| 19:27:06 | jachym: | (alex joined btw) |
| 19:28:07 | jachym: | domain registrations |
| 19:30:25 | jachym: | testing machines, environemnts, building tools (jenkinks), gitlab, ... redmine |
| 19:33:33 | jachym: | alex and sac are planing to archive all foss4g sites |
| 19:34:45 | jachym: | action item: djay updates foss4g.org page |
| 19:35:23 | mdsmith: | djay makes nice looking stuff so mdsmith is happy to see this as an item |
| 19:35:44 | jmckenna: | mdsmith: is there lunch downstairs? hungry up here :) |
| 19:35:51 | mdsmith: | don't know |
| 19:35:57 | jmckenna: | ok. carry on |
| 19:35:59 | jmckenna: | :) |
| 19:36:02 | mdsmith: | i'm in with the accountant and dmorissette |
| 19:36:09 | jmckenna: | ok |
| 19:41:04 | jachym: | I move for the next FOSS4G (2016) and afterwards, OSGeo board requires *completely* open budget, including soponsorships, income for "professional" organization helping with conference and all spendings (and income) related to FOSS4G conference |
| 19:41:06 | jachym: | +1 |
| 19:41:13 | djay: | +1 |
| 19:41:16 | vcraciunescu: | +1 |
| 19:41:25 | | * jmckenna lunch is served downstairs now |
| 19:41:28 | jmckenna: | +1 |
| 19:42:52 | mdsmith: | +1 |
| 19:43:25 | jachym: | motion passed |
| 19:45:10 | maxi__: | +1 eventi if late |
| 19:46:46 | | * djay moves a motion: to have a Charter Member or a Board Member to represent OSGeo at each LOC meeting to help them, sharing our FOSS4G knowledge with them and try to avoid any issue to happen next time. |
| 19:47:31 | mdsmith: | djay: to require this or to recommend this? |
| 19:47:50 | djay: | exactly |
| 19:48:01 | maxi__: | what's the rule for using foss4g name in local conferences? |
| 19:48:07 | mdsmith: | and this is to the LOC for the internaltional foss4g, correct? |
| 19:48:22 | mdsmith: | not for a regional event |
| 19:48:36 | djay: | mdsmith: we should do both |
| 19:48:46 | mdsmith: | eg, one where we issue an rfp meaning that we can put it in the rfp |
| 19:49:02 | mdsmith: | djay: not sure we can require this if we are not issuing an rfp |
| 19:49:12 | mdsmith: | we can only recommend or suggest this |
| 19:49:42 | djay: | mdsmith: we cannot force anything for the 2015 but we can ask them, then we can apply this for the 2016 one |
| 19:49:50 | mdsmith: | agreed |
| 19:51:03 | djay: | mdsmith: I would like us to have this capability in fact to require this or that to happen |
| 19:51:28 | EvenR: | (/me just warns that LOC meeting might be held in a ...local language) |
| 19:51:38 | jachym: | stil discussing |
| 19:51:47 | djay: | EvenR: you're right |
| 19:51:59 | djay: | that is why I spoke about having a representative |
| 19:52:14 | djay: | I didn't decided if it should be a CM or BM |
| 19:52:56 | | * mdsmith is not sure if it should be required as we might not have someone available |
| 19:53:43 | djay: | for instance, suppose we have accepted the proposal from Germany, then we can ask somebody from germany to take this role and report back to the Board (we have many people coming to mind for germany but it can be anybody until the Board accept his proposal to take this role/responsability) |
| 19:54:49 | mdsmith: | but how involved should we get, in your example if the LOC wants to go with company A for PCO and board wants company B, can we require the LOC to follow our decision? or do we just recommend? |
| 19:55:23 | maxi__: | in would be surprised is the organiser has no charter member on board |
| 19:56:04 | maxi__: | no but we a should pose constraints |
| 20:05:50 | djay: | mdsmith: this was not the way I see it |
| 20:05:59 | djay: | mdsmith: I was more thinking than once we accepted one proposal |
| 20:06:34 | djay: | then we help/sustain them during the organization work to be done for preparing the FOSS4G |
| 20:06:46 | djay: | we take the decision frist |
| 20:07:28 | djay: | then rather than making our hand clean as we are doing right now, I want us to have the hand totally dirty |
| 20:07:47 | djay: | this way if some issue occurs during the FOSS4G we can say we are responsible and we take our responisbility for this mistake |
| 20:08:00 | djay: | nowaday if anything rong happen we cannot do anything else than complaining |
| 20:08:16 | djay: | so we had became useless if we can only complain |
| 20:08:58 | djay: | the bad is that this complaints can only occur afterward (after the foss4g and the issue was faced already) so let's name it *too late* |
| 20:09:21 | djay: | so rather than giving them the full power we just keep control over the organization |
| 20:13:25 | jachym: | aross42: please, stop by |
| 20:13:32 | jachym: | I promis, I'll hold jeff firmly |
| 20:14:45 | aross42: | Thanks. No worries. Mostly, I wanted it to be very clear that we've been approaching everything trying to be helpful, open, and transparent. |
| 20:15:15 | djay: | what about my motion, may I ask fo rconsideration |
| 20:16:01 | aross42: | djay: if you're asking for my feedback, I'm happy to offer it if it is welcome. For what it's worth, I didn't see it because of a dropped internet connection when you posted. |
| 20:17:01 | mdsmith: | djay: i would say that it also depends on the level of commitment that we want this representative to make |
| 20:17:25 | mdsmith: | if we feel its a significant amount of time, some of that time should be funded |
| 20:18:21 | mdsmith: | i like the general principle, I'm just not sure how best we implement |
| 20:18:36 | mdsmith: | but for a general goal, i'm in favor |
| 20:30:33 | aross42: | As food for thought while I travel to join in person. I hear the concerns, and I'm trying to address them in various ways. What else I hear though, from a few & not the majority by any means, is that collaboration is desirable, so long as there's a clear upper hand for OSGeo. I want to be clear that I'm not asking for an upper hand for LocationTech. That's what I'm asking for help to address. If we can figure that out, this can b |
| 20:34:35 | tomkralidis: | jgarnett: ping |
| 20:34:44 | jgarnett: | hello! |
| 20:35:05 | jgarnett: | tomkralidis: pong |
| 20:35:17 | tomkralidis: | kalxas, jmckenna and I would like to discuss pycsw incubation w/ you for 10 min or, u around? |
| 20:43:54 | jgarnett: | sure |
| 20:44:02 | jgarnett: | just working with frank for a bit |
| 20:45:00 | tomkralidis: | sure, we r u main room, kalxas here for another couple of hours |
| 20:45:50 | jgarnett: | cool, you may need to come and grab me depending on how this bug hun goes |
| 20:46:12 | maxi__: | jgardnet: just a remind that there is a pending incubation request from istsos with Arnulf offered as mentor. |
| 20:47:21 | maxi__: | OSGeo board has to vote for approval? |
| 20:50:56 | jmckenna: | tomkralidis: can we do 3pm for the pycsw/incubation meeting? |
| 20:51:40 | jmckenna: | (gives us time up here to close/finish the Board meeting) |
| 20:51:46 | jmckenna: | we agreed to stop at 3pm |
| 20:53:29 | kalxas: | +1 |
| 20:53:49 | tomkralidis: | ok, 3PM. jgarnett does that work for you? |
| 20:54:12 | djay: | mdsmith: got your point, I should think and rephrase my motion I feel, indeed it is really important I think for the future of OSGeo itself |
| 20:54:26 | jgarnett: | actually now may be good I am waitinf for download |
| 20:54:56 | jgarnett: | but yeah catching up 3pm will be fine |
| 20:54:59 | jgarnett: | come and get me :) |
| 21:24:27 | jachym: | action item: jachym to setup policy for new board members (dropbox, svn, passwords, mail addresses) |
| 21:24:48 | jachym: | action: start to work on the code of conduct for board members |
| 21:25:13 | jachym: | (meeting continues btw) |
| 21:40:12 | djay_: | andrew arrived few minutes ago, sorry for not mentionning earlier |
| 21:58:30 | tomkralidis: | jgarnett: there? |
| 22:01:53 | tomkralidis: | jmckenna: ping |